| વિષયના પાનાઓ: < [1 2] | Off topic: Politician speaking the national language with a foreign accent દોર પોસ્ટ કરનાર: wonita (X)
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Edward Potter 
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The only prominent politician in my country who comes to mind is Arnold Schwarzenegger, the former Governor of California.
Although at times his accent might be a bit too thick for some, on balance this has been a plus for him. The idea is that anyone can come to the United States and make good for himself.
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had heavy Georgian (Caucasian) accent. This accent was and is largely imitated by Russians, when "quoting" Stalin, as a sign of respect. Also, it may be suspicious to hear a politician from Baltic region or Ukraina speak perfect Russian.
[Edited at 2012-01-06 07:53 GMT]
| | | | Tom in London
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Ty Kendall wrote:
.... the most heinous crime in modern Britain: Racism
Racism is indeed a serious criminal offence, punishable by law, in the UK but is not the most heinous crime here; I believe the most heinous crime in modern Britain is murder.
| | | | Ty Kendall
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Just Opera
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| Belgium has 3 official languages: Dutch, French, and German. | Jan 6, 2012 |
Elio Di Rupo, the francophone PM is often lambasted for his Dutch (spoken by nearly 60% of the population here.) After taking up the hot seat he was quoted as saying, "I need to improve my Dutch, I will work tirelessly to do this". note: Belgian French speakers are close to 39% of the population and German-speakers around 0.80%.
[Edited at 2012-01-06 17:10 GMT]
| | | | Heinrich Pesch
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| Not quite in the scope of this topic... | Jan 22, 2012 |
Last year a feature film was launched "Five Days in August" about the Russo-Georgian war 2008. Andy Garcia was playing Georgia's president Saakashvili, who speaks perfect American English, but in the movie Garcia speaks English with heavy Caucasian accent. Saakashvili was reported to have been deeply hurt.
| | | | | Elio di Rupo again | Feb 5, 2012 |
Just Opera wrote:
Elio Di Rupo, the francophone PM is often lambasted for his Dutch (spoken by nearly 60% of the population here.) After taking up the hot seat he was quoted as saying, "I need to improve my Dutch, I will work tirelessly to do this". note: Belgian French speakers are close to 39% of the population and German-speakers around 0.80%.
[Edited at 2012-01-06 17:10 GMT]
Just so. Dutch speakers have become so used to Premiers who have Dutch as their native language that they forget that just under half the country speaks French. Dutch-speaking premiers have inflicted some awful French on the French-speaking population, but this tends to be ignored in the absurd debate between the "language communities".
| | | | Neil Coffey
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| "Foreign" accents in the UK | Feb 6, 2012 |
The selection of UK prime ministers in the last few decades reflects an accent selection phenomenon that occurs in the UK for various "authority figures": that they can have either (a) a "standard" non-regional English accent, or (b) a Scottish (or Welsh) accent, be they from wherever.
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RafalW
Local time: 04:15
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| it depends... | Feb 6, 2012 |
I guess it would have to boil down to a simple question - what is their L1? I find people who pretend that they've acquired a foreign accent after living abroad for a short period of time dense.
From my personal experience [20 years abroad], I can tell you that I still speak without a shadow of an accent in my L1, yet I'd managed to perfect my English pronunciation.
| | | | wonita (X)
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વિષયની શરૂઆત કરનાર | A play with words | Feb 19, 2012 |
Tom in London wrote:
Ty Kendall wrote:
.... the most heinous crime in modern Britain: Racism
Racism is indeed a serious criminal offence, punishable by law, in the UK but is not the most heinous crime here; I believe the most heinous crime in modern Britain is murder.
To be politically correct we may say: The most heinous modern crime in Britain is racism.
| | | | | But you can't lower your guard | Feb 19, 2012 |
RafalW wrote:
I guess it would have to boil down to a simple question - what is their L1? I find people who pretend that they've acquired a foreign accent after living abroad for a short period of time dense.
From my personal experience [20 years abroad], I can tell you that I still speak without a shadow of an accent in my L1, yet I'd managed to perfect my English pronunciation.
Although I still speak English like a native, some years ago I discovered I had started to phrase my sentences as though I was speaking Spanish: "Please could you tell me..." instead of "Could you please tell me...". I've even had to google the title of my post, just to make sure I hadn't translated from Spanish!
I also tend to speak English more slowly than Spanish. I don't know if this is because I'm used to speaking to non-native speakers of English or if it's because I haven't kept up with the times. I recently read that we are speeding up everything we do, including speech. I speak Spanish at the rate of knots but I speak English as I did in 1977!
| | | | RafalW
Local time: 04:15
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Helena Chavarria wrote:
RafalW wrote:
I guess it would have to boil down to a simple question - what is their L1? I find people who pretend that they've acquired a foreign accent after living abroad for a short period of time dense.
From my personal experience [20 years abroad], I can tell you that I still speak without a shadow of an accent in my L1, yet I'd managed to perfect my English pronunciation.
Although I still speak English like a native, some years ago I discovered I had started to phrase my sentences as though I was speaking Spanish: "Please could you tell me..." instead of "Could you please tell me...". I've even had to google the title of my post, just to make sure I hadn't translated from Spanish!
I also tend to speak English more slowly than Spanish. I don't know if this is because I'm used to speaking to non-native speakers of English or if it's because I haven't kept up with the times. I recently read that we are speeding up everything we do, including speech. I speak Spanish at the rate of knots but I speak English as I did in 1977!
I noticed that most people who travel a lot tend to speak slower and with clarity. The reasons for that are obvious, even when they come back home, that manner of speaking stays with them.
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| Of course it's accepted | Sep 27, 2012 |
I've been speaking Swedish with an English accent for donkey's years and nobody has ever complained -- but then I'm not a politician.
However, my wife does say now and then, "We don't say that!"
Better a good politician with a foreign accent than a poor politician who speaks the language perfectly.
| | | | wonita (X)
ચીન
Local time: 22:15
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George Hopkins wrote:
Better a good politician with a foreign accent than a poor politician who speaks the language perfectly.
but a politician must make a serious impression. Making speeches with some grammatical mistakes or an accent is, on some occasions, too funny to be taken seriously.
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