Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Turkish term or phrase:
dikenli çalı
English translation:
thornbush
Turkish term
dikenli çalı
"Gülü yetiştlrir dikenli çalı" comes from an Aşık Veysel song, the rest of which I'll append.
My problem: çalı is "gorse", isn't it? So how could a rose grow on gorse?
It is true that the cognate Persian word "gul" means "flower" in general (mohammadi is used specifically for roses), but I thought that the word was always "rose" in Turkish.
Many thanks,
Simon
Anlatmam Derdimi
Anlatamam derdimi dertsiz insana
Dert çekmeyen dert kıymetin bilemez
Derdim bana derman (strength, power, energy; remedy, cure) imiş bilmedim
Hiçbir zaman gül dikensiz olamaz
Olamaz aman aman olamaz aman ey
Gülü yetiştlrir dikenli çalı
Arı her çiçekten yapıyor balı
Kişi sabır ile bulur kemali
Sabretmeyen maksudunu bulamaz
Bulamaz aman aman bulamaz aman ey
Ah çeker aşıklar ağlar zarınan
Yüce dağlar şöhret bulmuş karınan
Çağlar deli gönül ırmaklarınan
Ağlar ağlar göz yaşını silemez
Silemez aman aman silemez aman ey
Veysel günler geçti yaş altmış oldu
Döküldü yaprağım güllerim soldu
Gemi yükün aldı gam ilen doldu
Harekete kimse mani olamaz
Olamaz aman aman olamaz aman ey
| 5 +3 | thornbush |
Cagdas Karatas
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| 5 | prickly bush |
Selcuk Akyuz
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Oct 19, 2008 14:31: Selcuk Akyuz changed "Term asked" from "Gülü yetiştlrir dikenli çalı" to "dikenli çalı"
Oct 19, 2008 15:10: Can Altinbay changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"
Oct 20, 2008 13:22: Cagdas Karatas Created KOG entry
PRO (3): Cagdas Karatas, Selcuk Akyuz, Can Altinbay
Non-PRO (1): Ali Bayraktar
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Proposed translations
thornbush
There is an allusion to emergence of a beauty (rose) out of something considered worthless or wild (thornbush).
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