Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Turkish term or phrase:
kapkara; simsiyah
English translation:
pitch black
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Özden Arıkan
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kara siyah
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I know that both kara and siyah mean "black". Are they ever used as one adjective to mean "very black" or something like that?
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Özden Arıkan
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| 4 +2 | dark black |
Serkan Doğan
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| 3 | ............ |
Faruk Atabeyli
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They are not used together to mean "very black". But the following forms might be used to be "very black" or "black all over":
kapkara for kara, and
simsiyah for siyah
Also note that kara and siyah are not always interchangeable.
But are you sure this is a geology question? How does your term or sentence run exactly? If you provide all of it, maybe we can be of more help.
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Note added at 1 hr 30 mins (2005-11-29 10:12:37 GMT)
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Never heard of it before, but I have the feeling that they want to mean "black at its blackest" :-)
You may want to think of it as "pitch black". True, in fact, not all blacks are identical, nor are whites. So, this one should be 100% black.
kapkara for kara, and
simsiyah for siyah
Also note that kara and siyah are not always interchangeable.
But are you sure this is a geology question? How does your term or sentence run exactly? If you provide all of it, maybe we can be of more help.
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Note added at 1 hr 30 mins (2005-11-29 10:12:37 GMT)
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Never heard of it before, but I have the feeling that they want to mean "black at its blackest" :-)
You may want to think of it as "pitch black". True, in fact, not all blacks are identical, nor are whites. So, this one should be 100% black.
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Sebla Ronayne
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Ali Yildirim MCIL CL MITI
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Nizamettin Yigit
: a few days ago asker had asked one from Azeri.. so it may be used in that sense to express blakc black. Any Azeri or tÜrkmen out there?
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hmm, this should be considered, yes. there are many common words with entirely different ways of usage. we have colleagues that work with both, but they are not very active recently, i'm afraid.
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Can Altinbay
: The asker does Azeri, so that's a possibility. I'm afraid black is black, the rest are shades of grey, and pitch black really describes what it's like inside caves. Unless there is another black, I'd just use black.
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technically, black is black, but one possibility, other stones with dark grey color might have been described black, and now the writer is trying to coin a new color name to indicate the difference :D
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Serkan Doğan
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dark black
It may mean "dark black, darker black, negro black..." according to the case, if it makes any sense, use any of them...
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Sebla Ronayne
: XOLA'NI KAPKARASI COK HOSUMA GITTI
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YELDA KAHYA
: bencede dark black doğrudur
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if it means black as in darkest of all colors, then i suggest "pitch black"
if it means black with a slight shade of grey then i suggest "charcoal black"
but first someone has to tell exactly what kind of black "kara siyah" is.
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Note added at 15 hrs 57 mins (2005-11-30 00:39:43 GMT)
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just noticed that xola already suggested "pitch black".
if it means black with a slight shade of grey then i suggest "charcoal black"
but first someone has to tell exactly what kind of black "kara siyah" is.
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Note added at 15 hrs 57 mins (2005-11-30 00:39:43 GMT)
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just noticed that xola already suggested "pitch black".
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