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Best UK business bank account for translators?
Thread poster: Richard Foulkes (X)
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Natwest Dec 10, 2011

Richard Foulkes wrote:

Natwest:
Free banking for 2 years
Standard euro transfers - £10
Inward transfer fee - £7



I have an ordinary vanilla-flavour Natwest Current Plus account. Banking is free all the time (not only for 2 years); each time I receive a payment in Euro they whack off a massive £10 if the amount is over £100, or £1 if it's less than £100.

Added to which, their exchange rates seem very questionable.

This significantly reduces my income over the year but as Sonia says, actually doing a meaningful calculation is well-nigh impossible because the banks will never give you any reliable information. I suspect this is deliberate policy.

Thanks to David Cameron's close friendship with those people (the banks) it looks as though all hope of the UK ever joining the Euro has gone completely out the window now.



[Edited at 2011-12-10 20:48 GMT]


 
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Santander it is.... Dec 21, 2011

I decided to go with Santander for 18 months free business banking (when you have a Santander personal account), mainly for the fee-free euro transfers in. The fees for euro tranfers out are pretty high - about £20.

HSBC does look fairly attractive with free transfers in below £100 and £1 for SEPA payments above that as Gillian points out. SEPA transfers out cost £4. I'm not really familiar with SEPA (apart from having just Googled it), so I'm not sure how much control you have
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I decided to go with Santander for 18 months free business banking (when you have a Santander personal account), mainly for the fee-free euro transfers in. The fees for euro tranfers out are pretty high - about £20.

HSBC does look fairly attractive with free transfers in below £100 and £1 for SEPA payments above that as Gillian points out. SEPA transfers out cost £4. I'm not really familiar with SEPA (apart from having just Googled it), so I'm not sure how much control you have over your clients paying you via SEPA etc. It appears to be worth looking into though.

@Sonia - I think it may be possible to ask your clients to pay into your personal account then transfer into a business account but I guess it's one to check with your accountant.

The other thing that occurs to me is that bank fees are surely tax-deductible whereas losses on rubbish exchange rates can't be. I don't know whether banks vary widely in terms of their exchange rates - I suppose it depends how far into the minutae you want to look.

[Edited at 2011-12-21 14:42 GMT]
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Natwest or Lloyds Dec 22, 2011

Hi

I am a Ltd company and I bank with Natwest, the fees you uoted are what I get charged, and £1 charge for inward payments from Southern Ireland.

However, I also Factor all my UK invoices via Lloyds TSB Commercial Finance, and have been a Lloyds personal banker since I was 11and opened my first bank account. Lloyds have been great personally and also on the factoring side of things.

Only thing with Natwest is the automatically give you a credit card , whi
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Hi

I am a Ltd company and I bank with Natwest, the fees you uoted are what I get charged, and £1 charge for inward payments from Southern Ireland.

However, I also Factor all my UK invoices via Lloyds TSB Commercial Finance, and have been a Lloyds personal banker since I was 11and opened my first bank account. Lloyds have been great personally and also on the factoring side of things.

Only thing with Natwest is the automatically give you a credit card , which you can't say no to, part of the package (either you see this as a good thing or a bad thing).

Hope to have been of some help.

S
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Factoring Dec 22, 2011

What's the charge / commission for that Stephanie?

 
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Factoring Jan 26, 2012

Richard Foulkes wrote:

What's the charge / commission for that Stephanie?


Sorry, I didn't receive a notification...so am only just replying.

The minimum monthly fee is £300 or 1.5%, whichever is the greater.

I find it extremely helpful in getting people to pay on time, and Lloyds act as a debt collector (including in that monthly fee) to chase up any late payers. As stipulated, I only do it for my UK invoices though, and to be honest, the fee is negligable when I can have access to 80% of my invoice amounts within 24 hours, making cash flow a lot easier. Hey, I can a referral bonus if you mention my name...hint hint


 
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Thanks for the info Jan 26, 2012

Stéphanie Denton wrote:

Sorry, I didn't receive a notification...so am only just replying.

The minimum monthly fee is £300 or 1.5%, whichever is the greater.

I find it extremely helpful in getting people to pay on time, and Lloyds act as a debt collector (including in that monthly fee) to chase up any late payers. As stipulated, I only do it for my UK invoices though, and to be honest, the fee is negligable when I can have access to 80% of my invoice amounts within 24 hours, making cash flow a lot easier. Hey, I can a referral bonus if you mention my name...hint hint


Ha ha. I'm not sure I'd be prepared to pay that but I appreciate the benefits for cash flow and peace of mind.


 
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@Charlie Jan 26, 2012

Charlie Bavington wrote:

I take your point re xfer charges. I tend to accumulate large sums in France and xfer thousands at a time. A centime difference in the exchange rate is a big deal to me; a tenner in charges, somewhat less so.


I have an HSBC account here in the UK, and a Spanish € bank account. Clients that want to pay me in euros transfer euros to my Spanish account, clients that want to pay me in pounds send pounds to my HSBC account at home.

I wait until I have a decent amount in Spain and then use a UK company called 'Smart Currency Exchange' to transfer the euros to my UK account. I basically call up my 'personal trader' (or whatever he's called), and he quotes me a rate in Sterling for my euros. If I agree, I then transfer the euros to their account – the Bank Of Ireland if I remember correctly – and they send me the exact amount I was quoted. It usually arrives only a day or so after they have received my money from Spain.

I am no financial expert, but as far as I can tell this seems to be the cheapest way to solve the problem of living in the UK and getting paid in a mixture of euros and pounds by clients abroad.

Michael

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Charlie Bavington
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HSBC II Apr 2, 2012

http://cbavington.com/blog/2012/04/02/the-unbearable-incompetence-of-hsbc/

You know, I've never really had a bad word to say about HSBC before, but I suspect I will never recommend them to anyone ever again.


 
Gillian Searl
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why would you even think of doing that in a branch these days? Apr 2, 2012

when you can do most of the process online?

I don't go near a branch unless I have to:

http://www.business.hsbc.co.uk/1/2/business-banking/business-bank-accounts/business-current-account/apply;jsessionid=0000jHHjjSOeweuDj_t-__GgkdI:140firmh9

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when you can do most of the process online?

I don't go near a branch unless I have to:

http://www.business.hsbc.co.uk/1/2/business-banking/business-bank-accounts/business-current-account/apply;jsessionid=0000jHHjjSOeweuDj_t-__GgkdI:140firmh9

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Charlie Bavington
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Actually, you can't Apr 2, 2012

Gillian Searl wrote:

when you can do most of the process online?



Should have added that:
"We cannot accept applications from existing customers online at this time." They then say to contact a branch or call the call centre, and we know where that leads.


 
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