Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Chinese term or phrase:
a more deliberate and thoughtful endeavor
English translation:
更有自觉、更为谨慎
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Wenjer Leuschel (X)
Aug 23, 2004 11:22
19 yrs ago
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Chinese term
a more deliberate and thoughtful endeavor
Chinese to English
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Poetry & Literature
Narration
As translators we are "condemned" to read. First and foremost we are writers, and how and what we read informs how and what we write. In these days of fast food and instant gratification, reading has notable rivals offering us instant and continuous titillation: multimedia, television, Internet... On the Internet, we can surf around, opening thousands of pages, flitting from one topic to the next like children in a candy store, simply indulging our every whim. Reading is—and should be—a more deliberate and thoughtful endeavor.
翻译者注定是要不断阅读的。我们首先是作家，而且只要看我们「怎么阅读」和「读些什么」就知道我们会「怎么写作」和「写些什么」。在我们这个快餐文化与要求立即满足的时代，各式各样竞争激烈的读物不断供给我们大量的刺激：多媒体、电视节目、网际网络等等。我们可以随兴在网际网络上漫游，像小孩满心欢喜地进了糖果店，浏览话题包罗万象的成千上万的网页。因此，我们的阅读必须***更有自觉、更为谨慎。***
这样的理解和译法正确吗？
翻译者注定是要不断阅读的。我们首先是作家，而且只要看我们「怎么阅读」和「读些什么」就知道我们会「怎么写作」和「写些什么」。在我们这个快餐文化与要求立即满足的时代，各式各样竞争激烈的读物不断供给我们大量的刺激：多媒体、电视节目、网际网络等等。我们可以随兴在网际网络上漫游，像小孩满心欢喜地进了糖果店，浏览话题包罗万象的成千上万的网页。因此，我们的阅读必须***更有自觉、更为谨慎。***
这样的理解和译法正确吗？
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | 正确 |
Chinoise
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| 4 | 一种经过更加认真考虑的和更富思想性的持续努力 |
Kevin Yang
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| 4 | 我们的阅读活动（应当）更要精心选择、更要缜密思考 |
Ritchest
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| 4 | 因此，阅读是-而且应该是-一种需要周密计划和深思熟虑的行为. |
Mark Xiang
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| 3 | Explain |
jyuan_us
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| 3 | 一分更从容不迫,态度更沉思/深思的事儿 |
chica nueva
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Proposed translations
3 hrs
Selected
正确
（选择阅读内容时）更须三思而后行（深思熟虑，再作决定）
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Comment: "Thanks."
6 hrs
Explain
more deliberate 有更清晰的目的，引申为要有选择性。
more deliberate 同时有小心之意，但这和后面的谨慎意义重复。
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more deliberate 更仔细也许较通顺。
我们必须更仔细， 更谨慎地选择要读些什么。
more deliberate 同时有小心之意，但这和后面的谨慎意义重复。
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Note added at 6 hrs 31 mins (2004-08-23 17:53:56 GMT)
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more deliberate 更仔细也许较通顺。
我们必须更仔细， 更谨慎地选择要读些什么。
7 hrs
Kevin Yang
Native in Chinese
Works in field
Translation, Graphic Design, Copywriting
Native in: Chinese 
Works in: English to Chinese, Chinese to English, English to Korean, and 12 more.
一种经过更加认真考虑的和更富思想性的持续努力
Here comes my suggestion:
Reading is—and should be—a more deliberate and thoughtful endeavor.
读书是，而且应该是，一种经过更加认真考虑的和更富思想性的持续努力。
Reading is—and should be—a more deliberate and thoughtful endeavor.
读书是，而且应该是，一种经过更加认真考虑的和更富思想性的持续努力。
8 hrs
我们的阅读活动（应当）更要精心选择、更要缜密思考
与「怎么阅读」和「读些什么」相呼应
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Lu Zou
3 hrs
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| disagree |
Dave Mayer
: In this context I don't see any "选择" nuance in the English. As of 16 hrs 43 mins, I think the poster's own "更有自觉" best captures the meaning of "more deliberate" in this context.
9 hrs
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16 hrs
Mark Xiang
Native in Chinese
20 YRS AS MECHANICAL/TECHNICAL ENGINEER!
Native in: Chinese 
Works in: English to Chinese, Chinese to English
因此，阅读是-而且应该是-一种需要周密计划和深思熟虑的行为.
可见，阅读是-而且应该是-一种需要周密计划和深思熟虑的行为.
Too many choices, you have to decide carefully what you will read.
Too many choices, you have to decide carefully what you will read.
12 hrs
chica nueva
Native in English
Specializes in field
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Native in: English (Variants: British, New Zealand)
Works in: Chinese to English
Related KudoZ points
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一分更从容不迫,态度更沉思/深思的事儿
endeavour = enterprise, activity
endeavour = 事业;活动;事情;事儿?
endeavour = an earnest attempt or effort (Collins Concise English Dictionary)
endeavour = an attempt to do something eg Crossing the North Pole on foot was an amazing feat of human endeavour. artistic endeavour (Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
a more deliberate and thoughtful endeavour = (应该是)一分更从容不迫,态度更沉思/深思的事儿
deliberate = slow and careful (used of speech, thought or movement) 不慌不忙的;从容不迫的(指言谈,思想,动作) eg He stood up in a very deliberate way and left the room. 他从容不迫的站起身来,然后离开了房间.
thoughtful = showing that you are thinking deeply 沉思的
ponder = to spend time thinking carefully about something 深思;仔细考虑
ruminate = to think carefully about something 仔细考虑
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on second thoughts, this meaning of \'deliberate\' is not quite right for the context.
deliberate = 蓄意;故意
intentional = 有意的;故意的
conscious = intentional 故意的;有意的 eg a conscious decision 有意做出的决定 a conscious effort 有目的的努力
=> (更加)有目的的
endeavour = 事业;活动;事情;事儿?
endeavour = an earnest attempt or effort (Collins Concise English Dictionary)
endeavour = an attempt to do something eg Crossing the North Pole on foot was an amazing feat of human endeavour. artistic endeavour (Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
a more deliberate and thoughtful endeavour = (应该是)一分更从容不迫,态度更沉思/深思的事儿
deliberate = slow and careful (used of speech, thought or movement) 不慌不忙的;从容不迫的(指言谈,思想,动作) eg He stood up in a very deliberate way and left the room. 他从容不迫的站起身来,然后离开了房间.
thoughtful = showing that you are thinking deeply 沉思的
ponder = to spend time thinking carefully about something 深思;仔细考虑
ruminate = to think carefully about something 仔细考虑
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Note added at 18 hrs 47 mins (2004-08-24 06:10:00 GMT)
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on second thoughts, this meaning of \'deliberate\' is not quite right for the context.
deliberate = 蓄意;故意
intentional = 有意的;故意的
conscious = intentional 故意的;有意的 eg a conscious decision 有意做出的决定 a conscious effort 有目的的努力
=> (更加)有目的的
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