Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

dettes

English translation:

academic credit shortfalls

Added to glossary by Adrian MM.
Nov 9, 2022 09:35
1 yr ago
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French term

dettes

French to English Other Education / Pedagogy Algerian Transcript
I am translating an Algerian transcript in which "Decision: Admis/Dettes" occurs.
I am finding many examples of "admise avec dettes" online in Algerian contexts, but no translation whatsoever.
Change log

Nov 25, 2022 22:08: Adrian MM. Created KOG entry

Discussion

SafeTex Nov 13, 2022:
@ Daryo Check back. You accused others of inventing terms. To quote you:

"At the risk of repeating myself, there is no need to keep inventing a new translation, that might or might not mean something or anything to the target audience."

Something that you do often with your "zero ghit" suggestions.
That's all I'm saying.
Daryo Nov 13, 2022:
N'importe quoi, au carré! Suggesting to look at rules published by US/UK universities is hardly "inventing" anything - it's looking at the most relevant sources.

SafeTex Nov 13, 2022:
@ Daryo So it's okay to "invent" English terms, as long as it's you who does it?
And for the second time, you confuse Ghits with MT, which it isn't. It's just a statistical showing of how often a term appears on the Internet, or doesn't. Ghits is NOT MT. Google Translate is !!!
Daryo Nov 13, 2022:
GHITS? Seriously? That's the most self-defeating argument I've heard in ages!

Why bother with anything else, just count ghits? Sure ... keep shooting yourself in the foot.

You do realise that if "translating by statistics" happened to be a valid method then we should all pack ours bags and let Machine Translation take over completely?
SafeTex Nov 13, 2022:
@ Daryo But isn't that exactly what YOU do every time you suggest a translation with 0 or a very low number of Ghits for what is a common term in the source language,often rejecting another suggestion that is backed by hundreds of thousands of Ghits and clearly a reasonable suggestion. I've seen you do this time and time again.
Daryo Nov 13, 2022:
@ Andrzej Ziomek & all Point of method:

At the risk of repeating myself, there is no need to keep inventing a new translation, that might or might not mean something or anything to the target audience.

If you look at the rules of any UK /US university for "being admitted in the next academic year" you'll find the term effectively used in academia.
Andrzej Ziomek Nov 11, 2022:
How about:

admise avec dettes -> (provisional/-ly) admission/admitted with credits to make up

or
admitted with provisional/comditional credits
Daryo Nov 9, 2022:
This system is not specific to Algeria.

AFAIK it's used only to progress from one academic year to the next, NOT when admitting new students in Year one.

If you look at the rules of any UK /US university for "being admitted in the next academic year" you'll find the term used.
Emmanuella Nov 9, 2022:
Non Lisa. Samuel a donné la bonne interprétation.
Samuël Buysschaert Nov 9, 2022:
HTH Si ça peut aider,

"Dettes
Une dette est une forme de rattrapage qui concerne tout étudiant ayant été admis avec dettes en année supérieure sans l’acquisition de l’ensemble des crédits exigés. Dans ce cas, la note obtenue à l’examen d’une matière en dette remplace la note de l’examen de la matière, même si elle est inférieure. La note du Contrôle Continu reste inchangée, sauf si l’étudiant est autorisé à refaire le Contrôle Continu."
http://www.univ-bejaia.dz/formation/images/2021/Depliant A3 ...
Université de Béjaïa

Exemple:
Lisa Rosengard Nov 9, 2022:
With no other information it can only be assumed that there's been a decision to admit, accept or acknowledge with debts or money owed.

Proposed translations

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academic credit shortfalls /'catch-ups'/

Compare exam 'retakes', as in the first weblink.

Otherwise, my idea is based on Samuël B.'s Discussion Entry.
Example sentence:

Furthermore, you must have your academic advisor approve how the credit shortfall is made up (based on ABET and other departmental requirements).

Peer comment(s):

agree AllegroTrans
5 days
Thanks and merci.
agree Yvonne Gallagher : agree with "academic credit shortfalls"
16 days
Thanks and merci, with the first part entered in the glossary,
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I went with shortfall. Thank you!"
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missing work/ unpassed classes/ unpassed exams/ failed exams

I believe it's about academic debt.
In universities, for example, you can continue studying your next semester without having passed an exam or a subject.
En gros: you're allowed to study your next semester, but during that said semester you must pass the exam you haven't passed and etc.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Daryo : yes, it's OK as explanation, but it's not a translation.
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3 hrs

incomplete course requirements

Or "course requirements not yet met".
See Samuël's helpful reference in the discussion box. We don't say "debt" in English as far as I'm aware. I did find examples, but they were translations.

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And, yes, apparently specific to Algeria.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Adrian MM. : It isn't the course requirements that are incomplete.
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resits/retakes

Hello
This is probaby the closest we can get in English and yes, I know it does not completely correspond to the French. But the other suggestions up do not fully reflect the French either.
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matières non validées / non validated courses or semester

Que se passe-t-il lorsque vous ne validez pas votre année d'études ? À l'université, vous pourrez souvent passer dans l'année supérieure... même si vous n'avez pas validé votre année en cours. Explications.

Si vous n'obtenez pas le 10/20 nécessaire à la fin de votre année – malgré la compensation entre vos deux semestres et la session de rattrapage –, il vous reste certaines matières non validées.

Des matières de(s) l'année(s) précédente(s) à rattraper
Pour éviter de vous faire suivre une année parfois quasi "blanche", avec seulement deux ou trois matières "ratées", les universités vous laissent en général accéder à l'année suivante, à condition de repasser les matières non validées. Ce qui engendre un rythme de travail extrêmement exigeant !
Les étudiants concernés, parfois dénommés dans le jargon universitaire des "AJAC" (ajournés mais autorisés à composer dans l'année supérieure), pouvaient jusqu'à présent arriver en licence 3 (troisième année d'études) sans avoir validé certaines matières… datant du premier semestre de L1 ! Une situation extrême, en voie de disparition.
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https://www.letudiant.fr/etudes/fac/puis-je-etre-amene-e-a-r...

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https://www.letudiant.fr/etudes/fac/puis-je-etre-amene-e-a-r...

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https://agp1.fr/infos-pratiques/
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1 day 2 hrs

credit deficit (i.e. missing credits)

the concept is this: if you have need, say, 60 credits to validate a semester or a year but only have, say, 50 under your belt (for whatever reason), your "dette" is 10 credits (to talk of a credit as debt or deficit may sound odd but it's credits you don't have in fact), Tou can progress to the next semester/year with that "debt" provided you catch up during the following terms.
Peer comment(s):

agree AllegroTrans
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2 days 6 hrs

credits to catch up / catch-up credits / credits to make up

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Example sentence:

You may be able to make up missing NCEA credits before your course starts.

Contact Te Kura Correspondence School to find out if they can help you catch up. Once NCEA results are released UC will grant Provisional Admission to students who are catching up on 8 credits or less to meet the requirements of NCEA UE.

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