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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

una incapacidad expedida por el Seguro Social

English translation:

Social Security\'s determination of incapacity

Added to glossary by Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.)
May 14, 2007 07:36
17 yrs ago
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Spanish term

una incapacidad expedida por el Seguro Social

Spanish to English Bus/Financial Human Resources
Si durante el periodo de vacaciones el empleado llegara a tener una incapacidad expedida por el Seguro Social, estos días no impactarán su saldo de vacaciones.

Is this referring to disability benefit? And am a little unsure as to what 'estos dias' refers - days taken off as a result of disability?

Many thanks :)
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 Social Security's determination of incapacity
5 +2 sick leave
4 +1 disability (certification) by the Social Security
4 disability benefits issued by Social Security
4 a 8sick) certificate issued by teh SS
Change log

May 17, 2007 13:21: Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.) changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/136783">Lisa Roberts's</a> old entry - "una incapacidad expedida por el Seguro Social"" to ""Social Security\'s determination of incapacity ""

Discussion

Lia Fail (X) May 14, 2007:
To my mind one is either sick or disabled, and the question of holidays doesn't arise with people who are not working - usually indefinitely and not as such entitled to holidays - becuase of a disability, which is viewed as more/less permanent.
Victoria Frazier May 14, 2007:
¿De dónde proviene el texto original? Si está hablando del Seguro Social en México IMSS, el término Social Security no es correcto.
Lydia De Jorge May 14, 2007:
What I interpret from the context is that if the employee becomes eligible and collects disability benefits from SS during their vacation, the vacation days will count as sick days instead and will not be deducted from accrued vacation time.
Lydia De Jorge May 14, 2007:
I'm a bit confused by some of the responses here and it could be because SS operates differnt in other countries. I would appreciate clarification (for my own knowledge).
Lydia De Jorge May 14, 2007:
'estos dias' refers to the days the employee is on vacation.

Proposed translations

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Social Security's determination of incapacity

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Peer comment(s):
agree cristina estanislau
15 mins
Gracias Cristina
disagree Lia Fail (X) : it's not dis/incapacity, which has connotations of long-term illness, not the illness that might affect hols of 1 month or so
40 mins
Many thanks Lia... I see what you mean!!! and you're right! incapacity implies a long-term illness...
agree Silvia Brandon-Pérez : I disagree with Lia; social security gives benefits for short-term disability. Your answer is correct.
9 hrs
Many thanks Silvia...
agree Patrick Weill : I live in Mexico where IMSS is social security. I like your answer.
1934 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Many thanks to all for your help, but I felt this answer fit best within the context."
+2
52 mins

sick leave

Sick leave is the time that a person spends away from work because of illness or injury. (BUSINESS)
ex. I have been on sick leave for seven months with depression.


sick leave
permiso or (Spain) baja feminine or (RPl) licencia feminine por enfermedad
Peer comment(s):
agree Marsha Way : Right, and "estos días" refers to the days the person was sick over vacation (which really sucks!)In Mexico at least, if you have "sick leave" during holiday or on a weekend, you get that many days off at the end of the break or weekend.
4 hrs
thanks ^__^
agree Cinnamon Nolan
9 hrs
thanks ^__^
agree tecuatlmmv
95 days
thanks ^__^
disagree Patrick Weill : Sorry the incapacidad is a paper issued by the institute
1934 days
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+1
7 hrs

disability (certification) by the Social Security

I believe they are referring to a SS dictum. The days of disability, do not affect the regular vacation days.

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Note added at 7 horas (2007-05-14 14:55:48 GMT)
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There are regular benefits for sick days and the long term disability benefit that, if prolonged, it is paid by Social Security. These days should not affect vacation days.
Peer comment(s):
agree Patrick Weill : You are right. I like "disability/incapacity certification"
1933 days
Thank you Patrick...:-))
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disability benefits issued by Social Security

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a 8sick) certificate issued by teh SS

Looking at teh expression used in similar contexts (e.g. see end of page 3 in this PDF http://www.naalc.org/migrant/spanish/pdf/mgmexwpr_sp.pdf),

it seems quite clear that it's what the Spanish call a baja.

Si durante el periodo de vacaciones el empleado llegara a tener una incapacidad expedida por el Seguro Social, estos días no impactarán su saldo de vacaciones.

If an employee is issued with a (sick) certificate from the SS during his/her holidays, these days will not be counted as holidays.

OR

Vacation period days for which a (sick) certificate has been obtained from the SS will not be counted as holidays.

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Note added at 56 mins (2007-05-14 08:32:30 GMT)
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OOps!

Title: a (sick) certificate issued by the SS

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Note added at 57 mins (2007-05-14 08:33:31 GMT)
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In other words, if you can prove you were ill, by means of a proper cert obtained from the SS, then these days will not be counted as holiday - seems only fair and logical:-)

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Note added at 58 mins (2007-05-14 08:34:59 GMT)
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It's goy nothing to do with 'incapacity'. Refer to the PDF: it's a pregnant woman's right to be paid her salary when she is "certifiably" sick during her pregnancy.

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-05-14 08:37:44 GMT)
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The "estos dias" refers to the days of sick leave. If you took 30 days hols, and 4 of them were certified as sick, then after you came back, you would still be entitled to those 4 days.

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Note added at 15 hrs (2007-05-14 22:36:18 GMT)
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http://www.naalc.org/migrant/spanish/pdf/mgmexwpr_sp.pdf

¿Y si necesito ausentarme del trabajo
durante mi embarazo?
Durante tu embarazo puedes obtener permisos
para ausentarte, siempre y cuando se justifiquen
con una incapacidad, expedida por el IMSS, a
fin de que no te descuenten el día de tu salario.
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