Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

ist / soll

English translation:

actual (situation) / target

Added to glossary by Anne Lee
May 24, 2005 10:52
19 yrs ago
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German term

ist / soll

German to English Bus/Financial Finance (general)
I encountered 'ist' and 'soll' in a Dutch-English translation on business policies. I know that 'ist' means 'is' and 'soll' means 'as it should be', but how do I translate it in my context? The text explains a policy (soll) against which the current practice (ist) needs to be compared, so these two words are inserted in brackets. I fear that they would be lost on the English target audience in their current German state. Is there a standard way to translate these words in this context
Change log

May 24, 2005 15:03: Marcus Malabad changed "Term asked" from "\'ist\' and \'soll\' in this context" to "ist / soll"

Discussion

Marcus Malabad May 24, 2005:
Anne, why do you write 'in this context' when there is none? Posting the Dutch text would still help (many German speakers can read Dutch) M
Non-ProZ.com May 24, 2005:
For the responders asking me to add the German original sentence: Sorry, but there isn't one. As I explained, the source text is Dutch. 'Ist' and 'soll' are the only words in German.

Proposed translations

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German term (edited): 'ist' and 'soll' in this context
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actual (situation) / target

The policy goals (soll), can be covered by "target"

Gaps, or decision needs, are based on the Target-Actual (Soll-Ist) comparison. The target situation (Soll-Zustand) (8) can be objective and limiting as ...
www.ifla.org/IV/ifla62/62-hoff.htm -
Peer comment(s):

agree Victor Dewsbery : You pipped me at the post.
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agree silfilla
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agree Ian M-H (X)
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agree Derek Gill Franßen : Yes, this is the 'going' translation of these terms in a financial context. :-)
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agree Alison Schwitzgebel
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agree MichaelRS (X)
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agree ENGSOL
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agree Tatjana Dujmic
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agree jccantrell
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neutral Pavlo Astashonok : But could you provide more examples with the above equivalent? I'm not aware that it's so widespread
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Spot on. Many thanks for your helpful reply."
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theoretical/actual (real)

it all depends on your context but it sounds as though they are comparing theory with practice
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German term (edited): 'ist' and 'soll' in this context

credit and debit

I can't tell from your text if this would be right. Maybe you could do the entire text in German with the Ist and Soll words in their places. Then you might get more responses.
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neutral BrigitteHilgner : I agree that the German text should be provided; but: "credit & debit" = "Haben & Soll".
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German term (edited): 'ist' and 'soll' in this context

current and ideal

as in: current practice and ideal practice
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German term (edited): 'ist' and 'soll' in this context

ist [German]=is [English] ; soll [German]='is to' or 'should'[English]

Those are the standards from German to English with the 'soll' also be a target value in German
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German term (edited): 'ist' and 'soll' in this context

actual / target

"Soll" is the target, the situation the company wants to get to.
"Ist" is the actual or current situation.
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as is / to be

Ist/Soll is well known in the Information Technology. The older IT people will all recognise the term as it was part of the education. Ist stands for the current situation, soll stands for the desired situation. Nowadays, it seems that the combination as is/to be is more frequently used. So in the IT domain as is/to be would be the best translation.

Still, I am a big fan of using the good old IstSoll terms!

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Example sentence:

Ist/Soll describes the situation as it is now and what it needs to turn in to.

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